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		<title>Comment on Reforming public services for what? by Edward Harkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Harkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reform of public services thus needs to recalibrate how we meet current and future needs, with both policy makers and delivery agents stepping away from a deficit approach to an assets-based approach that recognises the strength of communities&quot;

I totally agree with the above assertion from Katherine Trebeck However, in addition to enlisting &quot;both policy makers and delivery agents&quot;, I suggest that there is a need for members of the general public, especially dependent service users, to also step up to the needs of recalibration and re-prioritising public service provision and delivery.

How ready, able and willing are such members of the public to accept, still less participate in, a letting-go or ending of some core, or nearly core services, so that resources can be redeployed to more long-term prevention and reconstruction expenditures? 

On another, almost contrary, point: Katherin Trebeck rightly cites inequality as a core drive of poverty and other socio-economic ills. I found it notable that the Christie Report and the Scottish Government&#039;s recent regeneration &#039;strategy&#039; paper, for example, have very little (if anything?) of significance to say about unequal distribution of power in public services and the need to redress this weakness. Such a redress would have to entail a handover (and not mere devolution) of power and assets to entities outwith &quot;both policy makers and delivery agents&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reform of public services thus needs to recalibrate how we meet current and future needs, with both policy makers and delivery agents stepping away from a deficit approach to an assets-based approach that recognises the strength of communities&#8221;</p>
<p>I totally agree with the above assertion from Katherine Trebeck However, in addition to enlisting &#8220;both policy makers and delivery agents&#8221;, I suggest that there is a need for members of the general public, especially dependent service users, to also step up to the needs of recalibration and re-prioritising public service provision and delivery.</p>
<p>How ready, able and willing are such members of the public to accept, still less participate in, a letting-go or ending of some core, or nearly core services, so that resources can be redeployed to more long-term prevention and reconstruction expenditures? </p>
<p>On another, almost contrary, point: Katherin Trebeck rightly cites inequality as a core drive of poverty and other socio-economic ills. I found it notable that the Christie Report and the Scottish Government&#8217;s recent regeneration &#8217;strategy&#8217; paper, for example, have very little (if anything?) of significance to say about unequal distribution of power in public services and the need to redress this weakness. Such a redress would have to entail a handover (and not mere devolution) of power and assets to entities outwith &#8220;both policy makers and delivery agents&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Future of Scotland too important to be left to politicians by Canon Kenyon Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canon Kenyon Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  The timing of a referendum is negotiable, but the nature of the question, and the issue of two or three options, is a mtter for the people of Scotland, not the politicians, and is non-negotiable.   As early as 2009 I proposed to the then minority SNP government that their intention to put a straight vote between the status quo and full nation-state independence, &quot;does not offer the people a wide enough choice, does not sufficiently honour their sovereignty, and fails to represnt the views of many Scots, who want a Scotland beyond Devolution anbd with substantially enhanced powers, but who do not favour complete independence&quot;    My own word for this is &quot;Secure Autonomy&quot; not the horrible Devo Max  (remember that &quot;power devolved is power retained&quot;), but the important pouint is that we need time for an informed debate on this, and to ensure that the implications of each option for the lives of our people, are fully understood.   We do not want a simple tranfer of powers, but a very different kind of democracy
So on this at least, it is fair to say to London,  &quot;think again&quot; and even to remind them of an old Scottish motto
&quot;Wha Daur Meddle wi&#039; me?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  The timing of a referendum is negotiable, but the nature of the question, and the issue of two or three options, is a mtter for the people of Scotland, not the politicians, and is non-negotiable.   As early as 2009 I proposed to the then minority SNP government that their intention to put a straight vote between the status quo and full nation-state independence, &#8220;does not offer the people a wide enough choice, does not sufficiently honour their sovereignty, and fails to represnt the views of many Scots, who want a Scotland beyond Devolution anbd with substantially enhanced powers, but who do not favour complete independence&#8221;    My own word for this is &#8220;Secure Autonomy&#8221; not the horrible Devo Max  (remember that &#8220;power devolved is power retained&#8221;), but the important pouint is that we need time for an informed debate on this, and to ensure that the implications of each option for the lives of our people, are fully understood.   We do not want a simple tranfer of powers, but a very different kind of democracy<br />
So on this at least, it is fair to say to London,  &#8220;think again&#8221; and even to remind them of an old Scottish motto<br />
&#8220;Wha Daur Meddle wi&#8217; me?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: Referendum &#8211; bin the political posturing and let the people decide by Lindsay Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/scvo-news/blog-referendum-bin-the-political-posturing-and-let-the-people-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one John, you&#039;ve hit the nail on the head.

Information to be provided, options and timescales need to be agreed in a mature manner without kneejerk reactions and over the top posturing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one John, you&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>Information to be provided, options and timescales need to be agreed in a mature manner without kneejerk reactions and over the top posturing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Future of Scotland too important to be left to politicians by Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you speak with the authority of all the charities involved in this organisation? Or are you putting your political views above that of this organisation and of Scotland. The flaws in the proposals of a multioption referendum have been explained many times and these are some of the reasons why all 3 unionist parties and even the SNP say they favour a straight forward Yes/No referendum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you speak with the authority of all the charities involved in this organisation? Or are you putting your political views above that of this organisation and of Scotland. The flaws in the proposals of a multioption referendum have been explained many times and these are some of the reasons why all 3 unionist parties and even the SNP say they favour a straight forward Yes/No referendum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Future of Scotland too important to be left to politicians by Alan Staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This and many other areas of policy Martin!  I very much agree with your comments and deplore the yah boo playground posturing and browbeating which masquerades as politics in both UK and Scottish Parliaments.  It really is very tiring to keep presenting researched and thought through arguments only to be met with a catalogue of often unrelated &#039;successes&#039; designed to show the party in a good light without actually commiting it to anything, and a frequently quite aggressive denial that anything could possibly be wrong.  In this era of increasingly aggressive competition among all agencies it is difficult to know where you go for reasoned and adult debate, certainly not the political system I agree, and tragically not really within the sector which is now dominated by vested interest otherwise known as survival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This and many other areas of policy Martin!  I very much agree with your comments and deplore the yah boo playground posturing and browbeating which masquerades as politics in both UK and Scottish Parliaments.  It really is very tiring to keep presenting researched and thought through arguments only to be met with a catalogue of often unrelated &#8217;successes&#8217; designed to show the party in a good light without actually commiting it to anything, and a frequently quite aggressive denial that anything could possibly be wrong.  In this era of increasingly aggressive competition among all agencies it is difficult to know where you go for reasoned and adult debate, certainly not the political system I agree, and tragically not really within the sector which is now dominated by vested interest otherwise known as survival.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: The new Health Lottery &#8211; a question of values, morals and ethics by John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 07:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Euilleam, it is indeed a great idea. People hooked on to lottery play any ways and if this can be used to help a good cause as well, why not! Play health lottery which actually does add some value and contributes to the health communities across UK. 

But I must say that the arguments raised in this post is compelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Euilleam, it is indeed a great idea. People hooked on to lottery play any ways and if this can be used to help a good cause as well, why not! Play health lottery which actually does add some value and contributes to the health communities across UK. </p>
<p>But I must say that the arguments raised in this post is compelling.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: The new Health Lottery &#8211; a question of values, morals and ethics by Euilleam Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euilleam Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Desmonds new Health Lottery is a great idea. How can John Downie talk about values, morals and ethics, when we have corruption in the Government, possibly present but certainly past.

Richard Desmond is a businessman and naturally capital gain is paramount, by 20.34% going direct to Health Services is a BIG incentive. And the National Lottery under Camelot is in desperate need of competition.
So as far as this 78 year old bankrupt pensioner is concerned, &#039;more power to youe elbow Desmond.

Euilleam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Desmonds new Health Lottery is a great idea. How can John Downie talk about values, morals and ethics, when we have corruption in the Government, possibly present but certainly past.</p>
<p>Richard Desmond is a businessman and naturally capital gain is paramount, by 20.34% going direct to Health Services is a BIG incentive. And the National Lottery under Camelot is in desperate need of competition.<br />
So as far as this 78 year old bankrupt pensioner is concerned, &#8216;more power to youe elbow Desmond.</p>
<p>Euilleam.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: The danger of becoming part of the nanny state by alan staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree John, yet another example of simplistic popularist thinking designed to look good to electorate
without thinking through the consequences.  On that note how about DWP having
withdrawn funding for the vol sector and not ensuring any safeguards, now are
encouraging Job Centre Plus to expand into offender employability by going to 
CJAs and prisons offering to do the work for nothing.  So much for encouraging the sector
to compete and adopt business aproaches.  What a stitch up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree John, yet another example of simplistic popularist thinking designed to look good to electorate<br />
without thinking through the consequences.  On that note how about DWP having<br />
withdrawn funding for the vol sector and not ensuring any safeguards, now are<br />
encouraging Job Centre Plus to expand into offender employability by going to<br />
CJAs and prisons offering to do the work for nothing.  So much for encouraging the sector<br />
to compete and adopt business aproaches.  What a stitch up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: Riots &#8211; Big Society in Action? by Morag Redwood</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/scvo-news/riots-big-society-in-action/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Morag Redwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly that the real news story as ever is the good work of the unsung heroes of the day. But it is a bit simplistic to divide our communities into the &#039;big society&#039; as made up of &#039;good&#039; people and &#039;rioters&#039; who need cleared up after!

Personally, I feel that a large section of our society is disempowered by socio-economic (and other) inequalities. When people have no agency to improve their own lot; when they can never aspire to have the things and standard of living that others enjoy; can never look forward to things getting better - then all it needs is a tipping point and for that few hours or days, the group of disparate people that we label &#039;rioters&#039;, enjoy the sheer power of mass action - whether they are at the centre or on the sidelines of the action. 

That is not to excuse such behaviour, but to make the comment that until such time as &#039;mainstream society&#039; relinquishes some power and encourages diverse players to be involved in the &#039;big society&#039;, we will continue with tensions between our &#039;bigger society&#039; and those in the &#039;other&#039;, &#039;smaller society&#039;. Surely we want to aim for a society that goes beyond being &#039;big&#039; to being &#039;complete&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly that the real news story as ever is the good work of the unsung heroes of the day. But it is a bit simplistic to divide our communities into the &#8216;big society&#8217; as made up of &#8216;good&#8217; people and &#8216;rioters&#8217; who need cleared up after!</p>
<p>Personally, I feel that a large section of our society is disempowered by socio-economic (and other) inequalities. When people have no agency to improve their own lot; when they can never aspire to have the things and standard of living that others enjoy; can never look forward to things getting better &#8211; then all it needs is a tipping point and for that few hours or days, the group of disparate people that we label &#8216;rioters&#8217;, enjoy the sheer power of mass action &#8211; whether they are at the centre or on the sidelines of the action. </p>
<p>That is not to excuse such behaviour, but to make the comment that until such time as &#8216;mainstream society&#8217; relinquishes some power and encourages diverse players to be involved in the &#8216;big society&#8217;, we will continue with tensions between our &#8216;bigger society&#8217; and those in the &#8216;other&#8217;, &#8217;smaller society&#8217;. Surely we want to aim for a society that goes beyond being &#8216;big&#8217; to being &#8216;complete&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A time to appreciate what we have by Bill Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, thoughtful and thought-provoking piece Martin.  Agree with a great deal of your analysis but worry that cuts made by the UK Government will begin to unravel the social fabric in Scotland. Also agree that we in the Third Sector must do our utmost to try to hold things together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, thoughtful and thought-provoking piece Martin.  Agree with a great deal of your analysis but worry that cuts made by the UK Government will begin to unravel the social fabric in Scotland. Also agree that we in the Third Sector must do our utmost to try to hold things together.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: The Possible Scot by Robert Livingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great blog, Alison, and I couldn&#039;t agree more. It&#039;s nine years since the British Medical Journal ran a much-discussed article on diverting funds from the NHS to arts, to save money through prevention, and the response from the medical profession was overwhelmingly positive.  It&#039;s eight years since Jack McConnell&#039;s famous St Andrews day speech talked of opening up other Government budgets to fund culture, because of all the benefits that would bring to the relevant Departments.  Now we have the Christie Commission&#039;s focus on &#039;prevention&#039; at a time when Councils across Scotland are making huge cuts in cultural spending, and most Creative Scotland clients are on standstill or worse. Yet the evidence for the role of culutral engagement in addressing health, education, inclusion and criminal justice issues is overwhelming--just look at the Big Noise/El Sistema in the Raploch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great blog, Alison, and I couldn&#8217;t agree more. It&#8217;s nine years since the British Medical Journal ran a much-discussed article on diverting funds from the NHS to arts, to save money through prevention, and the response from the medical profession was overwhelmingly positive.  It&#8217;s eight years since Jack McConnell&#8217;s famous St Andrews day speech talked of opening up other Government budgets to fund culture, because of all the benefits that would bring to the relevant Departments.  Now we have the Christie Commission&#8217;s focus on &#8216;prevention&#8217; at a time when Councils across Scotland are making huge cuts in cultural spending, and most Creative Scotland clients are on standstill or worse. Yet the evidence for the role of culutral engagement in addressing health, education, inclusion and criminal justice issues is overwhelming&#8211;just look at the Big Noise/El Sistema in the Raploch!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: Public services should be strengthened from within not above by Alan Staff</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/scvo-news/blog-public-services-should-be-strengthened-from-within-not-above/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real danger here is the massive disconect between policy makers, civil servants and practitioners.  I am prepared to believe that somewhere there is a real perception that freeing community service delivery from the dead hand of the public sector will create improvements and reduce costs.  However, the evidence of the recent Work Programme contracts, which also were covered with empty promises that opportunities for third sector involvement would be enshrined in the process, indicates that the moment the policy gets to the Civil Service and the procurement industry takes over, tendering regulations are set so as to almost totally exclude all but private sector deliverers.  The only real way the sector has of surviving in this market driven ideology is to form mega organisations or consortia which in themselves recreate the monopoly provider model which we aspire to provide an alternative to.  The Zeitgeist seems to prize the business model above all things, and it is not surprising that this is very seductive to those in Govt. who see opportunities to divest themselves of responsibility for welfare or any other aspect of social cohesion and solidarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real danger here is the massive disconect between policy makers, civil servants and practitioners.  I am prepared to believe that somewhere there is a real perception that freeing community service delivery from the dead hand of the public sector will create improvements and reduce costs.  However, the evidence of the recent Work Programme contracts, which also were covered with empty promises that opportunities for third sector involvement would be enshrined in the process, indicates that the moment the policy gets to the Civil Service and the procurement industry takes over, tendering regulations are set so as to almost totally exclude all but private sector deliverers.  The only real way the sector has of surviving in this market driven ideology is to form mega organisations or consortia which in themselves recreate the monopoly provider model which we aspire to provide an alternative to.  The Zeitgeist seems to prize the business model above all things, and it is not surprising that this is very seductive to those in Govt. who see opportunities to divest themselves of responsibility for welfare or any other aspect of social cohesion and solidarity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: Sectarian Bill &#8211; treating the symptoms not the causes by Michael Balfour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Balfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 00:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disappointed and saddened that the Director of Public Policy of a respected organisation like SCVO should try to blame sectarian attitudes on Faith schools.  If his allegation were true then sectarianism would be rife in countries all over the world where these schools are found. Clearly it is not. The truth is that, even in Scotland, sectarian behaviour is a significant problem in only some parts of the country while Faith schools are found all over our country. Far from addressing the causes of sectarianism this blog merely repeats the argument made for generations by anti-Catholic groups and more recently by anti-religious groups.  

To get to the real causes we need to understand why normally rational people should should behave offensively when they are at football matches. We need to explain why people in some communities happily support sharing of campuses by Faith schools and non-denominational ones while those in other towns oppose this. Those of us from different religious traditions need to look honestly at our own experience and how this has influenced our attitudes. Faith schools and faith-based voluntary organisations have a very worthwhile role to play in helping us understand sectarianism and challenging any prejudices that we may have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed and saddened that the Director of Public Policy of a respected organisation like SCVO should try to blame sectarian attitudes on Faith schools.  If his allegation were true then sectarianism would be rife in countries all over the world where these schools are found. Clearly it is not. The truth is that, even in Scotland, sectarian behaviour is a significant problem in only some parts of the country while Faith schools are found all over our country. Far from addressing the causes of sectarianism this blog merely repeats the argument made for generations by anti-Catholic groups and more recently by anti-religious groups.  </p>
<p>To get to the real causes we need to understand why normally rational people should should behave offensively when they are at football matches. We need to explain why people in some communities happily support sharing of campuses by Faith schools and non-denominational ones while those in other towns oppose this. Those of us from different religious traditions need to look honestly at our own experience and how this has influenced our attitudes. Faith schools and faith-based voluntary organisations have a very worthwhile role to play in helping us understand sectarianism and challenging any prejudices that we may have.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: Getting to the 20% by Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m off to Kibera in Kenya on Tuesday for  &#039;selfish&#039; charity work. Logically I now think I would do more good sending my air fare!

Average life expectacy there is about the same as parts of the East end of Glasgow.

For some in Scotland being a benefit junkie is a lifestyle choice and for others it&#039;s not.

Many don&#039;t have the life skills to get out of the myre and some are happy to go with the herd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m off to Kibera in Kenya on Tuesday for  &#8217;selfish&#8217; charity work. Logically I now think I would do more good sending my air fare!</p>
<p>Average life expectacy there is about the same as parts of the East end of Glasgow.</p>
<p>For some in Scotland being a benefit junkie is a lifestyle choice and for others it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>Many don&#8217;t have the life skills to get out of the myre and some are happy to go with the herd.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blog: Sectarian Bill &#8211; treating the symptoms not the causes by Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An article as poorly set out &amp; as unimaginative as the bill itself.

Here we go again another thinly disguised arguement against Catholic education (even though Islam gets a mention too showing mock balance).

Your logic infers that religion highlights differences and prejudice, would it not then make sense to outlaw religion? 

But I suppose it would be wasteful not to take advantage of the hype, pander to the hard thinking and batter around  knocking over freedom of choice instead of inforcing existing laws!

That can&#039;t be so difficult surely?

Maybe that&#039;s too easy or maybe you would care to answer why that&#039;s not happened &amp; why police authorities are not under more scrutiny.

As we know faith schools are accepted worldwide but questioned in Scotland whereas enforcing laws on illegal racist &amp; sectarian singing is too hot to handle here but stamped on elsewhere (it would and has been hammered in England) 

For me the most telling part of Roseanna Cunningham&#039;s shamblesgate was Mr Pious policeman who smugly claimed that &#039;if one person was prevented from committing a crime, the act would be worthwhile&#039;!

That&#039;s like a bad scene in Minority Report &amp; best described as bonkers!

The same organisation who have whistled whilst the law stays almost pristine in it&#039;s box wants a another law toy (&amp; budget that comes with it) to play with!

The real problem as we have seen this week are the politicians and policemen, perhaps there is a way of blaming their errs of faith based education. Or maybe religion has nothing to do with their simply not being up to the job .

Apologies for typo&#039;s non sequitor&#039;s typing on tiny phone screen, two visible lines at a time

Cliches like baby&#039;s &amp; bathwater don&#039;t even smudge the surface on that line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An article as poorly set out &amp; as unimaginative as the bill itself.</p>
<p>Here we go again another thinly disguised arguement against Catholic education (even though Islam gets a mention too showing mock balance).</p>
<p>Your logic infers that religion highlights differences and prejudice, would it not then make sense to outlaw religion? </p>
<p>But I suppose it would be wasteful not to take advantage of the hype, pander to the hard thinking and batter around  knocking over freedom of choice instead of inforcing existing laws!</p>
<p>That can&#8217;t be so difficult surely?</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s too easy or maybe you would care to answer why that&#8217;s not happened &amp; why police authorities are not under more scrutiny.</p>
<p>As we know faith schools are accepted worldwide but questioned in Scotland whereas enforcing laws on illegal racist &amp; sectarian singing is too hot to handle here but stamped on elsewhere (it would and has been hammered in England) </p>
<p>For me the most telling part of Roseanna Cunningham&#8217;s shamblesgate was Mr Pious policeman who smugly claimed that &#8216;if one person was prevented from committing a crime, the act would be worthwhile&#8217;!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like a bad scene in Minority Report &amp; best described as bonkers!</p>
<p>The same organisation who have whistled whilst the law stays almost pristine in it&#8217;s box wants a another law toy (&amp; budget that comes with it) to play with!</p>
<p>The real problem as we have seen this week are the politicians and policemen, perhaps there is a way of blaming their errs of faith based education. Or maybe religion has nothing to do with their simply not being up to the job .</p>
<p>Apologies for typo&#8217;s non sequitor&#8217;s typing on tiny phone screen, two visible lines at a time</p>
<p>Cliches like baby&#8217;s &amp; bathwater don&#8217;t even smudge the surface on that line!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 18 March 2011 by David</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-18-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On what basis can the Green&#039;s be denied a place on the platform other than &quot;it is inconvenient&quot; for the broadcasters? Based on previous and probable vote share the Green&#039;s have a case to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what basis can the Green&#8217;s be denied a place on the platform other than &#8220;it is inconvenient&#8221; for the broadcasters? Based on previous and probable vote share the Green&#8217;s have a case to be heard.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 18 March 2011 by John Sharkey</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-18-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sharkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a huge cry of injustice when the First Minister was excluded from the UK Party leaders debate last year and I would argue that Patrick Harvie has a stronger case. It is probable that the Greens will play a pivotal role after the election as its possible we may have a hung parliament so yes of course Patrick Harvie should be included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a huge cry of injustice when the First Minister was excluded from the UK Party leaders debate last year and I would argue that Patrick Harvie has a stronger case. It is probable that the Greens will play a pivotal role after the election as its possible we may have a hung parliament so yes of course Patrick Harvie should be included.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 18 March 2011 by Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-18-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely!  How can the smaller political parties break through, come crunch time, they are not given the same opportunities and coverage to communicate with voters as the exisiting main parties? And it&#039;s not as though the Greens are some flash in the pan fledgling party - they&#039;ve been around some time now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely!  How can the smaller political parties break through, come crunch time, they are not given the same opportunities and coverage to communicate with voters as the exisiting main parties? And it&#8217;s not as though the Greens are some flash in the pan fledgling party &#8211; they&#8217;ve been around some time now!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 18 March 2011 by ASilver</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-18-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>ASilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Harvie should be included - otherwise what is democracy? The Green Party have consistently returned MSPs to Holyrood, therefore they deserve as seat at the table. It is time to get away from only giving air time to the &quot;major&quot; parties and giving all parties a chance to put their points to potential voters as well as giving voters a chance to ask questions. Let Scotland lead the way in showing the rest of the UK that we support true democratic principles, rather than the &quot;same old, same old&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Harvie should be included &#8211; otherwise what is democracy? The Green Party have consistently returned MSPs to Holyrood, therefore they deserve as seat at the table. It is time to get away from only giving air time to the &#8220;major&#8221; parties and giving all parties a chance to put their points to potential voters as well as giving voters a chance to ask questions. Let Scotland lead the way in showing the rest of the UK that we support true democratic principles, rather than the &#8220;same old, same old&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by Malcolm May</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am of the view that final salary pensions in the public sector should not be abolished but modified so that they are only available for those on salaries of up to a certain level, and those on high salaries should be switched to career average pensions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of the view that final salary pensions in the public sector should not be abolished but modified so that they are only available for those on salaries of up to a certain level, and those on high salaries should be switched to career average pensions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by John G</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>John G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes; but I trust someone is also thinking about cutting back on final pension scheme payments currently being made to ALL retired Public Sector employees receiving more than ( say) 40k a year - starting with that well known banker ( Oops am I contempt of the law) Fred the Shred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes; but I trust someone is also thinking about cutting back on final pension scheme payments currently being made to ALL retired Public Sector employees receiving more than ( say) 40k a year &#8211; starting with that well known banker ( Oops am I contempt of the law) Fred the Shred</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by WilliamD</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regret, I also call for the abolishing of final pension schemes.  There was a time when public sector staff were poorly rewarded for their work, but this has not been the case for some time.

It is often said that public sector employees are not to blame for the current economic crisis - excepting of course those who work for the Treasury, and related quangos, who were supposed to safeguard our financial systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regret, I also call for the abolishing of final pension schemes.  There was a time when public sector staff were poorly rewarded for their work, but this has not been the case for some time.</p>
<p>It is often said that public sector employees are not to blame for the current economic crisis &#8211; excepting of course those who work for the Treasury, and related quangos, who were supposed to safeguard our financial systems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - this is a no brainer.  Why should my taxes have to subsidise someone else&#039;s pension? Everyone elses final salary schemes went ages ago because they are just not sustainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; this is a no brainer.  Why should my taxes have to subsidise someone else&#8217;s pension? Everyone elses final salary schemes went ages ago because they are just not sustainable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A shame though it is, final salary pension schemes are just no longer viable. I can appreciate public sector worker&#039;s frustrations at this, especially if their pensions played a large part in the decision to take the job in the first place, but the same could be said of anyone who has taken a job based on its wider benefits who are now facing less attractive packages, and many people in the private and voluntary sectors have already had to swallow this even harder, with many losing their jobs, let alone saving their pensions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A shame though it is, final salary pension schemes are just no longer viable. I can appreciate public sector worker&#8217;s frustrations at this, especially if their pensions played a large part in the decision to take the job in the first place, but the same could be said of anyone who has taken a job based on its wider benefits who are now facing less attractive packages, and many people in the private and voluntary sectors have already had to swallow this even harder, with many losing their jobs, let alone saving their pensions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by Alex Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facts are facts - there will not be enough funds to pay these pension in the future and we are in hock enough without inflicting this on our children.
The medias is hyping this up but the truth is the only ones losing will be the overpayed higharchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts are facts &#8211; there will not be enough funds to pay these pension in the future and we are in hock enough without inflicting this on our children.<br />
The medias is hyping this up but the truth is the only ones losing will be the overpayed higharchy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by Anglophile</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Anglophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a lifelong freelance, I couldn&#039;t have bought a &#039;final salary&#039; pension even if I could have afforded it, because the percentage of your income you are allowed to put towards your pension is limited as it&#039;s tax-deductable.  17% of sod all is still sod all. I am, however, contributing to the inflation-proof pensions of public sector staff, many of whom have earned exponentially more than I over their working lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lifelong freelance, I couldn&#8217;t have bought a &#8216;final salary&#8217; pension even if I could have afforded it, because the percentage of your income you are allowed to put towards your pension is limited as it&#8217;s tax-deductable.  17% of sod all is still sod all. I am, however, contributing to the inflation-proof pensions of public sector staff, many of whom have earned exponentially more than I over their working lives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by Margaret, Fife</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret, Fife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have to accpet reality re pensions.  If one more public sector worker says how they have paid for their pension I will scream - the whole point is that neither their employer nor their contribuitons cover the payments they will receive for their pensoin - the tax payer has to pay.  The very same tax payers who no longer have their final salary schemes, but need services that cannot be afforded because of the pension black hole!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have to accpet reality re pensions.  If one more public sector worker says how they have paid for their pension I will scream &#8211; the whole point is that neither their employer nor their contribuitons cover the payments they will receive for their pensoin &#8211; the tax payer has to pay.  The very same tax payers who no longer have their final salary schemes, but need services that cannot be afforded because of the pension black hole!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by FK1</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>FK1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The final salary pension scheme is an expense but I know how much my husband has to pay into his public sector pension each month AND how much he expects to receive as an annual pension.  It&#039;s hardly gold plated.  And the media often report that the tax payer has to support the public sector workforce but rarely remind viewers that public sector staff are also tax payers.

That said, I know how the sector I work in is being ravaged by cuts which in turn is forcing changes to terms and conditions so it&#039;s hard to see how public sector unions will raise much public support for strikes over this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The final salary pension scheme is an expense but I know how much my husband has to pay into his public sector pension each month AND how much he expects to receive as an annual pension.  It&#8217;s hardly gold plated.  And the media often report that the tax payer has to support the public sector workforce but rarely remind viewers that public sector staff are also tax payers.</p>
<p>That said, I know how the sector I work in is being ravaged by cuts which in turn is forcing changes to terms and conditions so it&#8217;s hard to see how public sector unions will raise much public support for strikes over this matter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN talkback poll 11 March: Comments by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-11-march-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree that the public sector should face the brunt of losing the final salary pensions as it wasn&#039;t anything that it done - bad management by high ranking officials, together with bad management over the benefits system by government by allowing anyone and everyone to claim benefits and then the workers have to pay the cost once again.   Why should someone who has given many years service and looks forward to retirement have to lose out when there are a lot of people with various types of ailments who have only worked briefly or not at all and have lived on benefits and income support get everything.   It is time that the working person got some justification for the years given in work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree that the public sector should face the brunt of losing the final salary pensions as it wasn&#8217;t anything that it done &#8211; bad management by high ranking officials, together with bad management over the benefits system by government by allowing anyone and everyone to claim benefits and then the workers have to pay the cost once again.   Why should someone who has given many years service and looks forward to retirement have to lose out when there are a lot of people with various types of ailments who have only worked briefly or not at all and have lived on benefits and income support get everything.   It is time that the working person got some justification for the years given in work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by ASilver</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-4-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>ASilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When staff members bring an organisation or a company into disrepute, they face disciplinary often for gross misconduct and have to face the consequences of their actions. Does this not apply to football managers and players? And if a member of staff uses verbal aggression against a colleague, including one from another organisation, then that is usually gross misconduct and if they are to be kept on, they are sent on anger management courses etc. Surely it should be the same in football. You cannot behave in public, so you will not be seen in public - and individuals who cannot be seen in public cannot do their jobs - so... Start getting individuals to take responsibility for their actions. Football managers, footballers, fans. These are adults not children - stop treating them like children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When staff members bring an organisation or a company into disrepute, they face disciplinary often for gross misconduct and have to face the consequences of their actions. Does this not apply to football managers and players? And if a member of staff uses verbal aggression against a colleague, including one from another organisation, then that is usually gross misconduct and if they are to be kept on, they are sent on anger management courses etc. Surely it should be the same in football. You cannot behave in public, so you will not be seen in public &#8211; and individuals who cannot be seen in public cannot do their jobs &#8211; so&#8230; Start getting individuals to take responsibility for their actions. Football managers, footballers, fans. These are adults not children &#8211; stop treating them like children.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Ross, Edinburgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about missing the point: instead of attacking the &#039;trigger&#039;, how about addressing the root cause?    If we don&#039;t facilitate meaningful behaviour change then we&#039;ll not make any progress whatsoever on this issue.  Banning the broadcast of a football game is just silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about missing the point: instead of attacking the &#8216;trigger&#8217;, how about addressing the root cause?    If we don&#8217;t facilitate meaningful behaviour change then we&#8217;ll not make any progress whatsoever on this issue.  Banning the broadcast of a football game is just silly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the few games that raises money in Scottish football, no way should fans be banned.  Of course passions are high - having watched &quot;The Football Years&quot; from 1986 last week, the same fights were happening every now and again then!  It&#039;s nothing new, so why all this fuss over this season&#039;s fixtures, sure they&#039;ve been a bit more bad tempered this season, but every now and again you&#039;ll get a manager or players who are that way inclined.  The Celtic Manager will surely calm down as he gains experience and his players will learn not to follow his example and incite!  It was certainly fabulous TV on Wednesday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the few games that raises money in Scottish football, no way should fans be banned.  Of course passions are high &#8211; having watched &#8220;The Football Years&#8221; from 1986 last week, the same fights were happening every now and again then!  It&#8217;s nothing new, so why all this fuss over this season&#8217;s fixtures, sure they&#8217;ve been a bit more bad tempered this season, but every now and again you&#8217;ll get a manager or players who are that way inclined.  The Celtic Manager will surely calm down as he gains experience and his players will learn not to follow his example and incite!  It was certainly fabulous TV on Wednesday night.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by MyAuntie</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyAuntie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing behind closed doors will only hide fact that this is a serious problem, locally, nationally and globally - the same rules should apply to (dare I say) athletes and us law abiding citizens. 

The reality is that football is a sport, not the freedom to get away with racism, assault (Mr Rooney), air guns (Mr Cole)!?! etc etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing behind closed doors will only hide fact that this is a serious problem, locally, nationally and globally &#8211; the same rules should apply to (dare I say) athletes and us law abiding citizens. </p>
<p>The reality is that football is a sport, not the freedom to get away with racism, assault (Mr Rooney), air guns (Mr Cole)!?! etc etc</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-4-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, playing behind closed doors does not get to the root of the problem. There is a strong culture of a ‘them and us’ attitude and accepted extreme behaviour, including violence, that has been built around football over a very long time frame. As hard as it will be, unless something that substantially attempts to challenge this culture is driven forward within clubs, the media and fans alike, domestic violence and other unnacceptable behaviour will continue to thrive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, playing behind closed doors does not get to the root of the problem. There is a strong culture of a ‘them and us’ attitude and accepted extreme behaviour, including violence, that has been built around football over a very long time frame. As hard as it will be, unless something that substantially attempts to challenge this culture is driven forward within clubs, the media and fans alike, domestic violence and other unnacceptable behaviour will continue to thrive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, playing behind closed doors does not get to the root of the problem.  There is a strong culture of &#039;them and us&#039; and accepted extreme behaviour, including violence, that has been built around football over a very long time frame,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, playing behind closed doors does not get to the root of the problem.  There is a strong culture of &#8216;them and us&#8217; and accepted extreme behaviour, including violence, that has been built around football over a very long time frame,</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Archie, Bridge of Don</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-4-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Archie, Bridge of Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the usual story isn&#039;t it - why punish the majority for the behaviour of a few idiots. Well, in this case one of the few idiots was the Celtic manager, a man who really should know better but clearly has no intention of doing so. So many before him have won titles and cups without the need to descend to such ludicrous histrionics, but he was like that as a player and sadly hasn&#039;t grown up. Rangers also need to look at themselves for an appalling disciplinary display that didn&#039;t help matters any. With reported incidents of domestic violence on the rise around Old Firm match days, you have to see that someone needs to take the rap for it all. Play the next two (at Ibrox and Parkhead) behind closed doors to trial it at least and see if it has any net effect. Of course, you&#039;d have to stop it being televised as well, so the whole shambles doesn&#039;t just spill into the watering holes. Rangers and Celtic - Scotland&#039;s shame indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the usual story isn&#8217;t it &#8211; why punish the majority for the behaviour of a few idiots. Well, in this case one of the few idiots was the Celtic manager, a man who really should know better but clearly has no intention of doing so. So many before him have won titles and cups without the need to descend to such ludicrous histrionics, but he was like that as a player and sadly hasn&#8217;t grown up. Rangers also need to look at themselves for an appalling disciplinary display that didn&#8217;t help matters any. With reported incidents of domestic violence on the rise around Old Firm match days, you have to see that someone needs to take the rap for it all. Play the next two (at Ibrox and Parkhead) behind closed doors to trial it at least and see if it has any net effect. Of course, you&#8217;d have to stop it being televised as well, so the whole shambles doesn&#8217;t just spill into the watering holes. Rangers and Celtic &#8211; Scotland&#8217;s shame indeed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Jeremy D'Arcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy D'Arcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely it&#039;s simple: charge the two teams who are playing for the policing of the matches. A senior police officer this week described the season&#039;s policing costs for old firm games as &quot;£30-40million&quot; - well I&#039;m sure both teams would do more to combat the less pleasant aspects of their support if they had to fork out up to £20million each over the course of the season to pay for the excess policing which is necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely it&#8217;s simple: charge the two teams who are playing for the policing of the matches. A senior police officer this week described the season&#8217;s policing costs for old firm games as &#8220;£30-40million&#8221; &#8211; well I&#8217;m sure both teams would do more to combat the less pleasant aspects of their support if they had to fork out up to £20million each over the course of the season to pay for the excess policing which is necessary.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where was the option for - who cares?  What a waste of tax payers money, policing something that is meant to be fun and is in fact just an excuse for a good fight.  Perhaps we should just lock all the violent fans in a stadium and let them fight it out once and for all - survival of the fittest.  

However as that&#039;s not going to happen I find it ironic that Rangers sign a reknowed dirty player who has not turned over a new leaf and depsite 3 rangers players being red carded in last week&#039;s game, all the coverage is of Neil lennon pointing a finger at Ali McCoist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where was the option for &#8211; who cares?  What a waste of tax payers money, policing something that is meant to be fun and is in fact just an excuse for a good fight.  Perhaps we should just lock all the violent fans in a stadium and let them fight it out once and for all &#8211; survival of the fittest.  </p>
<p>However as that&#8217;s not going to happen I find it ironic that Rangers sign a reknowed dirty player who has not turned over a new leaf and depsite 3 rangers players being red carded in last week&#8217;s game, all the coverage is of Neil lennon pointing a finger at Ali McCoist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Agnes O' the Colonies</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-4-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Agnes O' the Colonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Behind colsed doors? Ludicrous idea. The poisonous rivalry and extreme reactions shown on Wednesday night is exactly what the Scottish game needs. People around the world are talking about Scottish football when otherwise they wouldn&#039;t. And once they are talking about football, they will talk about Scotland in general, the passion of the people and what a good place it would be to have a holiday. We&#039;re multi quids in here, and it is all due to a few men in shorts squaring up to each other, uttering a few sweary words and snarling with upturned lips.
People need some excitement to arouse them from the drudgery of working in modern day Scotland and we need to inspire people to come here and the Old Firm rivalry certainly helps both of these. But we need to be less hung up about everyone behaving like Gentleman Jim, and let the rival players, managers and fans get stuck into one another. Great entertainment value, and a useful antidote to the non-competitive nonsense that psychologists and educationalists spew out. Combat is great, let&#039;s celebrate the passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Behind colsed doors? Ludicrous idea. The poisonous rivalry and extreme reactions shown on Wednesday night is exactly what the Scottish game needs. People around the world are talking about Scottish football when otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t. And once they are talking about football, they will talk about Scotland in general, the passion of the people and what a good place it would be to have a holiday. We&#8217;re multi quids in here, and it is all due to a few men in shorts squaring up to each other, uttering a few sweary words and snarling with upturned lips.<br />
People need some excitement to arouse them from the drudgery of working in modern day Scotland and we need to inspire people to come here and the Old Firm rivalry certainly helps both of these. But we need to be less hung up about everyone behaving like Gentleman Jim, and let the rival players, managers and fans get stuck into one another. Great entertainment value, and a useful antidote to the non-competitive nonsense that psychologists and educationalists spew out. Combat is great, let&#8217;s celebrate the passion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to punish them is prevent them from making money. The increase in public disorder, domestic and street violence is evident. Followers of these two teams are a stain on Scottish society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to punish them is prevent them from making money. The increase in public disorder, domestic and street violence is evident. Followers of these two teams are a stain on Scottish society.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Anglophile</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-4-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Anglophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it should be the other way around, if the players are as bad as an element of the spectators, deny them the pleasure of a live crowd.</description>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by John G</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-4-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>John G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Graham Spiers has said in the Times:
     But of the &#039;despicable&#039; Old Firm we also have to say this: don&#039;t people love it? Wednesday&#039;s 60,000 crowd inside Celtic Park, and the wider television audience, were gripped by it...Despair and hand-wringing are one thing, but a spectacle is a spectacle: where excitement and drama (and even mayhem) prevail, people are drawn to watch it. Certainly, while various Scottish football officials lament these events at Celtic Park, the sports executives of Sky television simply cannot get enough of it and want to pay the Scottish game bigger and bigger cheques for more of the same. Are these cheques to be turned down while the game is cleaned up?
     
And as  Kenneth Roy editor of the Scottish Review has said:
    I think Mr Spiers has got to the heart of the matter. The media themselves have an intense vested interest in the extreme behaviour that they simultaneously deplore. Money talks no louder than it does in sport and no louder in sport than it does in football. The main effect of Wednesday&#039;s eruption will not be to change Scotland for the better, but to make the television rights for Old Firm matches more desirable than ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Graham Spiers has said in the Times:<br />
     But of the &#8216;despicable&#8217; Old Firm we also have to say this: don&#8217;t people love it? Wednesday&#8217;s 60,000 crowd inside Celtic Park, and the wider television audience, were gripped by it&#8230;Despair and hand-wringing are one thing, but a spectacle is a spectacle: where excitement and drama (and even mayhem) prevail, people are drawn to watch it. Certainly, while various Scottish football officials lament these events at Celtic Park, the sports executives of Sky television simply cannot get enough of it and want to pay the Scottish game bigger and bigger cheques for more of the same. Are these cheques to be turned down while the game is cleaned up?</p>
<p>And as  Kenneth Roy editor of the Scottish Review has said:<br />
    I think Mr Spiers has got to the heart of the matter. The media themselves have an intense vested interest in the extreme behaviour that they simultaneously deplore. Money talks no louder than it does in sport and no louder in sport than it does in football. The main effect of Wednesday&#8217;s eruption will not be to change Scotland for the better, but to make the television rights for Old Firm matches more desirable than ever.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll comments: 4 March 2011 by Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-4-march-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 11:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The figures for domestic violence are pretty shocking and I think that alone would be reason enough to even ban old firm matches altogether.  There&#039;s no excuse for domestic violence and allowing football matches to become an excuse would be a tragedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The figures for domestic violence are pretty shocking and I think that alone would be reason enough to even ban old firm matches altogether.  There&#8217;s no excuse for domestic violence and allowing football matches to become an excuse would be a tragedy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I do not feel management pressure to work unpaid overtime, such pressure there is comes from myself trying to do the job as well as I can. However I can and do take things easy and work shorter hours when we have a less busy period.
What I do find iniquitous is when management demand weekend working and only offer time off in lieu by way of recompense while being well aware that not all annual holidays are ever used never mind there extras in lieu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I do not feel management pressure to work unpaid overtime, such pressure there is comes from myself trying to do the job as well as I can. However I can and do take things easy and work shorter hours when we have a less busy period.<br />
What I do find iniquitous is when management demand weekend working and only offer time off in lieu by way of recompense while being well aware that not all annual holidays are ever used never mind there extras in lieu.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Archie, Bridge of Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archie, Bridge of Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really depends on where you work and how you handle the situation yourself. In some workplaces, you&#039;re quietly expected to be as superhuman as a Blue Peter presenter - always hurling yourself into an endless stream of extra-curricular activities, always on call when your bosses need you to be, and always going about it cheerfully as your life gets completely taken over by the job. Inevitable consequence of this? Probably alcoholism. In other workplaces, it&#039;s more to do with what you&#039;re actually doing when you&#039;re there rather than how long you&#039;re there for. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s getting worse in most places, but with labour as cheap as it is in the Tiger Economies of the far east, it&#039;s hard to see how work/life balance is going to help us recover from a recession and compete in a global market. Right, that&#039;s it -  I&#039;m off home...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really depends on where you work and how you handle the situation yourself. In some workplaces, you&#8217;re quietly expected to be as superhuman as a Blue Peter presenter &#8211; always hurling yourself into an endless stream of extra-curricular activities, always on call when your bosses need you to be, and always going about it cheerfully as your life gets completely taken over by the job. Inevitable consequence of this? Probably alcoholism. In other workplaces, it&#8217;s more to do with what you&#8217;re actually doing when you&#8217;re there rather than how long you&#8217;re there for. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s getting worse in most places, but with labour as cheap as it is in the Tiger Economies of the far east, it&#8217;s hard to see how work/life balance is going to help us recover from a recession and compete in a global market. Right, that&#8217;s it &#8211;  I&#8217;m off home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Ross, Edinburgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say I fee pressure from my management to put in longer hours. However as organisations &#039;transform&#039; and as vital people leave without being replaced the only option other than project failure is to, regrettably, put in some extra (and unpaid) hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say I fee pressure from my management to put in longer hours. However as organisations &#8216;transform&#8217; and as vital people leave without being replaced the only option other than project failure is to, regrettably, put in some extra (and unpaid) hours.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-25-february-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the only people I know who work the hours they&#039;re supposed to are my friends who are nurses.  And they work 12.5 hour shifts 4 or 5 times a week!  The rest of us live in overtime city.
British people work much longer hours than the rest of Europe and even America these days but what can we do?  I&#039;d love to work less and play more but without my friends being able to take time off, it&#039;d be a bit lonely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the only people I know who work the hours they&#8217;re supposed to are my friends who are nurses.  And they work 12.5 hour shifts 4 or 5 times a week!  The rest of us live in overtime city.<br />
British people work much longer hours than the rest of Europe and even America these days but what can we do?  I&#8217;d love to work less and play more but without my friends being able to take time off, it&#8217;d be a bit lonely!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Jenny Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely. If you come into the office at 9 and leave at 5, everyone looks at you as if you&#039;re a slacker. At my job, management seem to believe that you should be so committed to your job that you happily work loads of overtime and take work home. The idea that you get paid for a 35 hour week is a thing of the past. The sad thing is that it doesn&#039;t lead to a more efficient or capable workforce, it just makes us all knackered and resentful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely. If you come into the office at 9 and leave at 5, everyone looks at you as if you&#8217;re a slacker. At my job, management seem to believe that you should be so committed to your job that you happily work loads of overtime and take work home. The idea that you get paid for a 35 hour week is a thing of the past. The sad thing is that it doesn&#8217;t lead to a more efficient or capable workforce, it just makes us all knackered and resentful!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-25-february-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We only have ourselves to blame of we allow ourselves to be pressurised into regularly doing unpaid overtime.  We all have to work hard and be efficient and sometimes work long hours, but there&#039;s no need for us to sit at our desks for extra unpaid hours on a regular basis - unless we want to, of course...  
The key thing to look at is productivity, not the times people clock in and out, and no manager should criticise staff for exercising their right to proper work/life balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only have ourselves to blame of we allow ourselves to be pressurised into regularly doing unpaid overtime.  We all have to work hard and be efficient and sometimes work long hours, but there&#8217;s no need for us to sit at our desks for extra unpaid hours on a regular basis &#8211; unless we want to, of course&#8230;<br />
The key thing to look at is productivity, not the times people clock in and out, and no manager should criticise staff for exercising their right to proper work/life balance.</p>
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		<dc:creator>sickened</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is not a human right it is a luxury a can of juice and this man gets a sympathy vote he lives rent free and pays no taxes mentally ill my arse everybody who does sick things in mental lock them up in a prison and forget about them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is not a human right it is a luxury a can of juice and this man gets a sympathy vote he lives rent free and pays no taxes mentally ill my arse everybody who does sick things in mental lock them up in a prison and forget about them</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have worked in the public, private and voluntary sectors.  I am conciencious and so every job I have had I have ended up working unpaid overtime.  It is the nature of the kind of role I have and it is my choice because I care about the quality of my work and want to deliver.  

As long as I remember its my choice, and in return, if I have a problem like my boiler breaking then I get flexiblity.  I get frustrated working with jobsworth people who clock watch, take back every minute of toil and then spend ages on non work tasks while they are meant to be working and still want the flexibility if they have a problem without making the time back!  Its difficult for managers when team members have such different attitudes to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked in the public, private and voluntary sectors.  I am conciencious and so every job I have had I have ended up working unpaid overtime.  It is the nature of the kind of role I have and it is my choice because I care about the quality of my work and want to deliver.  </p>
<p>As long as I remember its my choice, and in return, if I have a problem like my boiler breaking then I get flexiblity.  I get frustrated working with jobsworth people who clock watch, take back every minute of toil and then spend ages on non work tasks while they are meant to be working and still want the flexibility if they have a problem without making the time back!  Its difficult for managers when team members have such different attitudes to work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 25 February 2011 by Englightenment, please</title>
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		<dc:creator>Englightenment, please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are under pressure to work longer hours, but sometimes it is required to meet deadlines.  Ideally, we would all work our contracted hours, and get paid overtime (or TOIL) for work beyond these, but small organisations particularly, need to have some flexibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are under pressure to work longer hours, but sometimes it is required to meet deadlines.  Ideally, we would all work our contracted hours, and get paid overtime (or TOIL) for work beyond these, but small organisations particularly, need to have some flexibility.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 18 February 2011 Comments by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve answered Yes, but not because it&#039;s too easy living on benefits, it&#039;s just too bloody difficult getting off them once you&#039;re in the system</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve answered Yes, but not because it&#8217;s too easy living on benefits, it&#8217;s just too bloody difficult getting off them once you&#8217;re in the system</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 18 February 2011 Comments by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>£80 a week to cover food, bills, clothing, shoes, etc, etc...  That ain&#039;t easy, and anyone who says it IS easy has never tried to survive on so little. Add to that the amount of degrading hassle you get at the Job Centre and the whole question goes beyond a joke. Week after week TFN runs stories about job losses in this sector - professional people losing careers they have worked years on. Let me tell you - for the vast majority of benefits claimants this is anthing but the &quot;easy option&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>£80 a week to cover food, bills, clothing, shoes, etc, etc&#8230;  That ain&#8217;t easy, and anyone who says it IS easy has never tried to survive on so little. Add to that the amount of degrading hassle you get at the Job Centre and the whole question goes beyond a joke. Week after week TFN runs stories about job losses in this sector &#8211; professional people losing careers they have worked years on. Let me tell you &#8211; for the vast majority of benefits claimants this is anthing but the &#8220;easy option&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 18 February 2011 Comments by ASilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many of the MPs and civil servants involved in the current round of Welfare Reform have had to rely on the benefits system in this country. Not for a week or two because it makes good TV, but for long periods of time when there are no jobs. How would they bring up thier families? Pay all their bills? Have a good quality of life? MPs and civil servants are paid from the same public purse that pays for the welfare system. Can we have a reform system for them where if they do not reach a certain standard, then their &quot;benefit&quot; i.e. their salaries, are cut. And the government could offer all the benefit &quot;scroungers&quot; a job carrying out the MP/civil servant assessments; in fact the goverment could go further and enable the &quot;scroungers&quot; to assess the whole political system for slackers - the House of Lords, Westminster, Holyrood, local councils, commissioners, government, health boards, councillors. How much money could be saved if there is a sliding scale of effectiveness?
Then we might be able to believe Cameron when he says &quot;we are all in this together&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of the MPs and civil servants involved in the current round of Welfare Reform have had to rely on the benefits system in this country. Not for a week or two because it makes good TV, but for long periods of time when there are no jobs. How would they bring up thier families? Pay all their bills? Have a good quality of life? MPs and civil servants are paid from the same public purse that pays for the welfare system. Can we have a reform system for them where if they do not reach a certain standard, then their &#8220;benefit&#8221; i.e. their salaries, are cut. And the government could offer all the benefit &#8220;scroungers&#8221; a job carrying out the MP/civil servant assessments; in fact the goverment could go further and enable the &#8220;scroungers&#8221; to assess the whole political system for slackers &#8211; the House of Lords, Westminster, Holyrood, local councils, commissioners, government, health boards, councillors. How much money could be saved if there is a sliding scale of effectiveness?<br />
Then we might be able to believe Cameron when he says &#8220;we are all in this together&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 18 February 2011 Comments by alvagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-18-february-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>alvagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s not too easy to live life on benefits - of course some (a wee minority) play the system, unfortunately that&#039;s human nature, but most recipients/ friends I&#039;ve met are honest.

It&#039;s a complicated system, tinkered with for decades, difficult to follow.  Replacing it with one benefit may sound a wonderful &amp; brave solution but this would be disadvantageous to so many, plus lose nuances of tailored support eg

* the removal of mobility component for people in care is atrocious concept - the whole point of the old Mobility Allowance was to recognise that people with disabilities have to pay more (due to our macro-environment and gov£ priorities) - MobAll helped them retain their dignity by let them choose best solutions for their individual needs to participate in their life - yes, mobility component of DLA &amp; ESA sounds okay, better targetted.  How do the ConDems match this now to devolving decisions etc?
* JSA - it is demeaning that despite paying NI myself, I am still considered an adjunct to my partner and should expect support there.  Seen this become less &amp; less over the years from UB40 (I used to work in vol sector, so short contracts &amp; lots of unemployment de rigeur).  Didn&#039;t encourage me to sign on and jump thru mad hoops.

Have you ever seen the quality of life on benefits?  The long-term effects of low income?  - poorer people die earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not too easy to live life on benefits &#8211; of course some (a wee minority) play the system, unfortunately that&#8217;s human nature, but most recipients/ friends I&#8217;ve met are honest.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a complicated system, tinkered with for decades, difficult to follow.  Replacing it with one benefit may sound a wonderful &amp; brave solution but this would be disadvantageous to so many, plus lose nuances of tailored support eg</p>
<p>* the removal of mobility component for people in care is atrocious concept &#8211; the whole point of the old Mobility Allowance was to recognise that people with disabilities have to pay more (due to our macro-environment and gov£ priorities) &#8211; MobAll helped them retain their dignity by let them choose best solutions for their individual needs to participate in their life &#8211; yes, mobility component of DLA &amp; ESA sounds okay, better targetted.  How do the ConDems match this now to devolving decisions etc?<br />
* JSA &#8211; it is demeaning that despite paying NI myself, I am still considered an adjunct to my partner and should expect support there.  Seen this become less &amp; less over the years from UB40 (I used to work in vol sector, so short contracts &amp; lots of unemployment de rigeur).  Didn&#8217;t encourage me to sign on and jump thru mad hoops.</p>
<p>Have you ever seen the quality of life on benefits?  The long-term effects of low income?  &#8211; poorer people die earlier.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 18 February 2011 Comments by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, if it wasn&#039;t then there wouldn&#039;t be generation after generation not working!</description>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 18 February 2011 Comments by Jenny Green</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-18-february-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it&#039;s not. It can take months for housing benefit claims to come through and already people are being reassessed and their benefits cut. If a life on benefits is such fun why aren&#039;t we all doing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it&#8217;s not. It can take months for housing benefit claims to come through and already people are being reassessed and their benefits cut. If a life on benefits is such fun why aren&#8217;t we all doing it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll: 18 February 2011 Comments by Anglophile</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-18-february-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Anglophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve voted yes, because I know people who are playing the system, but if it was made easier for people with variable conditions (like mental ill-health or MS) to work when they were well enough and sign on and off depending on their ability to work without losing benefits, I also know people who would willingly work when they&#039;re fit enough, but are afraid to lose, for example, housing benefit if they sign off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve voted yes, because I know people who are playing the system, but if it was made easier for people with variable conditions (like mental ill-health or MS) to work when they were well enough and sign on and off depending on their ability to work without losing benefits, I also know people who would willingly work when they&#8217;re fit enough, but are afraid to lose, for example, housing benefit if they sign off.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by Archie, Bridge of Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archie, Bridge of Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s have a think about the victims of crime here. Why should a convicted criminal be able to have a say in matters that affect honest, law-abiding citizens? On the same token, if you adhere by the law, you retain the right to have your say on the legislation around crime and punishment. That&#039;s a kind of natural order to me. Do criminals think twice about this issue before committing a crime? &quot;I really mustn&#039;t rob this old lady because ultimately my right to vote will be affected...&quot;. Don&#039;t think so. In fact, losing the mandate hasn&#039;t deterred some recent high profile characters that purport to be keen on it i.e. Tommy Sheridan, Jim Devine et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s have a think about the victims of crime here. Why should a convicted criminal be able to have a say in matters that affect honest, law-abiding citizens? On the same token, if you adhere by the law, you retain the right to have your say on the legislation around crime and punishment. That&#8217;s a kind of natural order to me. Do criminals think twice about this issue before committing a crime? &#8220;I really mustn&#8217;t rob this old lady because ultimately my right to vote will be affected&#8230;&#8221;. Don&#8217;t think so. In fact, losing the mandate hasn&#8217;t deterred some recent high profile characters that purport to be keen on it i.e. Tommy Sheridan, Jim Devine et al.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by Ross, Edinburgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is prison an optionality to rehabilitate an offender or is it merely a punishment?  I&#039;d argue it is the former and as such enfranchising offenders is vitally important.  Do we really need to debate this any further?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is prison an optionality to rehabilitate an offender or is it merely a punishment?  I&#8217;d argue it is the former and as such enfranchising offenders is vitally important.  Do we really need to debate this any further?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by Ailsa, Edinburgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ailsa, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think a blanket ban is appropriate and we are talking relatively small numbers here, the UK prison population of c 85,000 being the size of a single town.  

But lets not go down the compensation path. And lets not relax the rules for jury duty either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think a blanket ban is appropriate and we are talking relatively small numbers here, the UK prison population of c 85,000 being the size of a single town.  </p>
<p>But lets not go down the compensation path. And lets not relax the rules for jury duty either!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you are convicted of an offence against society, the freedoms that you normally have are given up. This has long been the view of the majority of British society. We all know just what these are before deciding on a course of action, and therefore it should not come as a surprise when they are withdrawn.
We also know that sentencing can and often does vary for individual crimes, however to give a blanket change to our current laws would cause more problems than it resolves. It may be time for an independent review of the rights that are withdrawn once a person is sent to prison.
It can not be right for a person in prison, for example Peter Sutcliffe, to continue to have the same voting rights, as the victims and families of those victims of his crimes. This would go against the very foundations that our society is build upon.
However, the person who is in prison for a peaceful demonstration against nuclear weapons, is making a stand against a part of our society which they believe is wrong, this person has not harmed anyone, there are no victims to appease, no families of victims. this person could retain the right to vote.
I am all for equlity in our society, but being part of our society demands that you abide by certain customs and laws, that have been established throughout our history and the growth of our nation. Yes we have gained some good things from europe, but let us not forget, europe has gained from our society aswell, to just simply agree with what some unelected officials tell us is correct, is not democratic however much it may seem to benefit us. It needs discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are convicted of an offence against society, the freedoms that you normally have are given up. This has long been the view of the majority of British society. We all know just what these are before deciding on a course of action, and therefore it should not come as a surprise when they are withdrawn.<br />
We also know that sentencing can and often does vary for individual crimes, however to give a blanket change to our current laws would cause more problems than it resolves. It may be time for an independent review of the rights that are withdrawn once a person is sent to prison.<br />
It can not be right for a person in prison, for example Peter Sutcliffe, to continue to have the same voting rights, as the victims and families of those victims of his crimes. This would go against the very foundations that our society is build upon.<br />
However, the person who is in prison for a peaceful demonstration against nuclear weapons, is making a stand against a part of our society which they believe is wrong, this person has not harmed anyone, there are no victims to appease, no families of victims. this person could retain the right to vote.<br />
I am all for equlity in our society, but being part of our society demands that you abide by certain customs and laws, that have been established throughout our history and the growth of our nation. Yes we have gained some good things from europe, but let us not forget, europe has gained from our society aswell, to just simply agree with what some unelected officials tell us is correct, is not democratic however much it may seem to benefit us. It needs discussion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by WilliamD</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always felt that prisoners losing their right to vote was a just part of their punishment.  However, the sentencing vagaries are such that people who have committed similar crimes may escape prison; women often escape jail for offences men would be imprisoned for (for understandable reasons) is one example.

Why should the man lose his vote, and the woman keep hers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always felt that prisoners losing their right to vote was a just part of their punishment.  However, the sentencing vagaries are such that people who have committed similar crimes may escape prison; women often escape jail for offences men would be imprisoned for (for understandable reasons) is one example.</p>
<p>Why should the man lose his vote, and the woman keep hers?</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by ASilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that MPs have voted against prisoners being allowed to vote. If it is ok for the people ultimately responsible for passing the laws in this country to have a criminal record - Lord Archer being one of the most notorious - then surely prisoners should be allowed a say in who is running the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that MPs have voted against prisoners being allowed to vote. If it is ok for the people ultimately responsible for passing the laws in this country to have a criminal record &#8211; Lord Archer being one of the most notorious &#8211; then surely prisoners should be allowed a say in who is running the country.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by John G</title>
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		<dc:creator>John G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all be grateful to the European Court of Human Rights and the Act which protects us fron the toadaying of MPs at Westminster who will do anything to appease &#039;&#039;public opinion&#039;&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all be grateful to the European Court of Human Rights and the Act which protects us fron the toadaying of MPs at Westminster who will do anything to appease &#8221;public opinion&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by Romi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A society isn&#039;t fully civilised if it denies its prisoners the right to vote. By their shameful House of Commons vote in favour of the ban, our MPs have shown what a backward uncivilised bunch they are. Thank goodness we have the European Court of Human Rights to ensure that the rightful decision will eventually be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A society isn&#8217;t fully civilised if it denies its prisoners the right to vote. By their shameful House of Commons vote in favour of the ban, our MPs have shown what a backward uncivilised bunch they are. Thank goodness we have the European Court of Human Rights to ensure that the rightful decision will eventually be made.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK so prisoners are punished by removing their freedom to move about in society, but we need to give them a sense that they will be welcomed back and that their views will be respected once more. One way to keep them engaged is to allow them to express their opinion with a vote. In captivity, perhaps they will look at the issues more carefully and think about what their opinion would mean for other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK so prisoners are punished by removing their freedom to move about in society, but we need to give them a sense that they will be welcomed back and that their views will be respected once more. One way to keep them engaged is to allow them to express their opinion with a vote. In captivity, perhaps they will look at the issues more carefully and think about what their opinion would mean for other people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see that its a bad thing - might present opportunities for bringing up discussions re. democracy, society, responsibility etc etc ...Plus, its in the Act. There isn&#039;t a cherry-picking option, and it would set a dangerous precedent to ignore it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see that its a bad thing &#8211; might present opportunities for bringing up discussions re. democracy, society, responsibility etc etc &#8230;Plus, its in the Act. There isn&#8217;t a cherry-picking option, and it would set a dangerous precedent to ignore it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 11 February 2011 by Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that we can truly claim to live in a democracy if we deny a portion of society the rights to act as full citizens.  Committing a crime shoudn&#039;t automatically remove your human rights, regardless of what wrong you have done.  Equality of rights is half the point of human rights legislation.  If we start picking and choosing which bits of the law we want to follow, and which bots of society we want to include, we&#039;re setting out on a very dangerous road indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that we can truly claim to live in a democracy if we deny a portion of society the rights to act as full citizens.  Committing a crime shoudn&#8217;t automatically remove your human rights, regardless of what wrong you have done.  Equality of rights is half the point of human rights legislation.  If we start picking and choosing which bits of the law we want to follow, and which bots of society we want to include, we&#8217;re setting out on a very dangerous road indeed.</p>
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		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-comment-4-february-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody always says something different about this. In my view though, locking people up with a bunch of more hardened criminals and leaving them to it, is not likely to be an effective way of reducing reoffending. Getting people out into the community where they can get to know the people who are affected by their crimes and develop practical and team-working skills at the same time would appear to be more sensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody always says something different about this. In my view though, locking people up with a bunch of more hardened criminals and leaving them to it, is not likely to be an effective way of reducing reoffending. Getting people out into the community where they can get to know the people who are affected by their crimes and develop practical and team-working skills at the same time would appear to be more sensible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll Comment 4 February 2011 by Archie, Bridge of Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archie, Bridge of Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have imagined prison would be the very best apprenticeship for a life of crime. Where better to acquire all the skills and advice you could ever need to take your life in an unsavoury direction than banged up with a bunch of inveterate wrong &#039;uns who not only have a wealth, but a considerable breadth, of experience to impart upon new arrivals. It seems a bit crazy to throw small-time criminals into a place where they could skill up quickly to become big-time. That said, community sentences need to be carried out properly. It seems like a very easy ride in its current form, and if it&#039;s to work properly then it needs to be effectively run and monitored. The more public facing it is, the better. There&#039;s no point in putting people into behind-the-scenes tasks because they&#039;ll only take the mickey and abuse the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have imagined prison would be the very best apprenticeship for a life of crime. Where better to acquire all the skills and advice you could ever need to take your life in an unsavoury direction than banged up with a bunch of inveterate wrong &#8216;uns who not only have a wealth, but a considerable breadth, of experience to impart upon new arrivals. It seems a bit crazy to throw small-time criminals into a place where they could skill up quickly to become big-time. That said, community sentences need to be carried out properly. It seems like a very easy ride in its current form, and if it&#8217;s to work properly then it needs to be effectively run and monitored. The more public facing it is, the better. There&#8217;s no point in putting people into behind-the-scenes tasks because they&#8217;ll only take the mickey and abuse the system.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll Comment 4 February 2011 by Ross, Edinburgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally hate taking a deontological stance but when it comes to justice I am very much in favour of community sentencing.  Imprisonment, especially for short sentences, helps neither the offender nor the state.  At least a community sentence represents a benefit to the affected community.

Mirroring the comment put forward by Diane, I too would like to see better monitoring of such community sentences – a 40% non-completion rate of such sentences is unacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally hate taking a deontological stance but when it comes to justice I am very much in favour of community sentencing.  Imprisonment, especially for short sentences, helps neither the offender nor the state.  At least a community sentence represents a benefit to the affected community.</p>
<p>Mirroring the comment put forward by Diane, I too would like to see better monitoring of such community sentences – a 40% non-completion rate of such sentences is unacceptable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll Comment 4 February 2011 by Ailsa, Edinburgh</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-comment-4-february-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Ailsa, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem isn&#039;t that community service doesn&#039;t work - it&#039;s that it isn&#039;t being properly resourced and supported.  Short term prison sentences may act as a better deterrent in a few cases.  But mainly they stigmatize more, alienate more, and put less back into communities than community service.

It also seems as though courts are often quicker to use prison sentences in the case of offenders from deprived backgrounds, when in other cases they would use fines and community service...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn&#8217;t that community service doesn&#8217;t work &#8211; it&#8217;s that it isn&#8217;t being properly resourced and supported.  Short term prison sentences may act as a better deterrent in a few cases.  But mainly they stigmatize more, alienate more, and put less back into communities than community service.</p>
<p>It also seems as though courts are often quicker to use prison sentences in the case of offenders from deprived backgrounds, when in other cases they would use fines and community service&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll Comment 4 February 2011 by Diane, Glasgow</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-comment-4-february-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane, Glasgow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in favour of community sentencing, however, believe that this must be accompanied with adequate resources for proper supervision and sufficient places for community service to be carried out quickly and effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in favour of community sentencing, however, believe that this must be accompanied with adequate resources for proper supervision and sufficient places for community service to be carried out quickly and effectively.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll Comment 4 February 2011 by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public Flogging would certainly curb this behaviour...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public Flogging would certainly curb this behaviour&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback poll Comment 4 February 2011 by John Sharkey</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-comment-4-february-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sharkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask any offender whether they&#039;d prefer to go to prison or do community service. The vast majority if not all would plump for community service.  The decision should sit with whoever is passing the sentence and the decision based on an assessment of the individual concerned. Any blanket ban on short sentences is in my opinion wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask any offender whether they&#8217;d prefer to go to prison or do community service. The vast majority if not all would plump for community service.  The decision should sit with whoever is passing the sentence and the decision based on an assessment of the individual concerned. Any blanket ban on short sentences is in my opinion wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scottish charities plan revolt over cuts to DLA benefits by adutton</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/news/scottish-charities-plan-revolt-over-cuts-to-dla%e2%80%88benefits/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>adutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test</description>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by hugh ferguson</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-28-jan-20100/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 12:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy was a good man who helped many needy people - but should have faced the music instead of trying every trick in the book to escape blame - he underestimated the people of Scotland - they would have supported him - Good man for others - silly man for himself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy was a good man who helped many needy people &#8211; but should have faced the music instead of trying every trick in the book to escape blame &#8211; he underestimated the people of Scotland &#8211; they would have supported him &#8211; Good man for others &#8211; silly man for himself</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by JN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to be a pedant, but he is not dead and therefore cannot be a martyr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to be a pedant, but he is not dead and therefore cannot be a martyr.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Catherine M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree if he had ignored the story or used it to imply they were using sleeze to get away from the issues the party was challenging on he might have got away from it.  he should have ignored it as beneth comment and it would have been forgotten about. As it was he was foolish, nobody really cares what people get up to in their private lives just so long as they get the job done which they were elected to do.  This broke at  a time SSP were putting a worthwhile private members bill through and the story wrecked what chance it might have had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree if he had ignored the story or used it to imply they were using sleeze to get away from the issues the party was challenging on he might have got away from it.  he should have ignored it as beneth comment and it would have been forgotten about. As it was he was foolish, nobody really cares what people get up to in their private lives just so long as they get the job done which they were elected to do.  This broke at  a time SSP were putting a worthwhile private members bill through and the story wrecked what chance it might have had.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Jeremy D'Arcy</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-28-jan-20100/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy D'Arcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No - he&#039;s an utter phoney. He has almost single handedly thwarted the rise of the left in Scotland and I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised if in many years he turns out to have been a government plant, placed to do exactly that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No &#8211; he&#8217;s an utter phoney. He has almost single handedly thwarted the rise of the left in Scotland and I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised if in many years he turns out to have been a government plant, placed to do exactly that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Abbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good old Tommy, so full of arrogance that he thought he could take on the NOW and win. To ask people to belive that all of the witnesses called during his trial were lying and he was the only one telling the truth is beyond belief, his credibility is ziltch. The devoted family man who subjected his wife to public humiliation is driven soley by his ego and not by his morales, Gail hanging onto his arm each day made herself look subserviant to TS, I wonder how she feels now knowing that he has cheated on her on several occasions. I thought Gail was a strong willed and confident woman, now my opinion of her is that she is becoming more like her cheating husband,  and will do anything to hog the limelight, no matter the cost. TS has changed the face of socialism forever and certainly not for the better. The truth will out and even TS is not big enought to defeat the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good old Tommy, so full of arrogance that he thought he could take on the NOW and win. To ask people to belive that all of the witnesses called during his trial were lying and he was the only one telling the truth is beyond belief, his credibility is ziltch. The devoted family man who subjected his wife to public humiliation is driven soley by his ego and not by his morales, Gail hanging onto his arm each day made herself look subserviant to TS, I wonder how she feels now knowing that he has cheated on her on several occasions. I thought Gail was a strong willed and confident woman, now my opinion of her is that she is becoming more like her cheating husband,  and will do anything to hog the limelight, no matter the cost. TS has changed the face of socialism forever and certainly not for the better. The truth will out and even TS is not big enought to defeat the truth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Realist</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/uncategorized/tfn-talkback-poll-comments-28-jan-20100/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy is a victim of his own ego but he was subject to the a disproportionate, targeted attach by News International, aided and abetted by Lothian and Borders Police and other statutory arms of the Government.  For this he is a matyr as we are now watching the gloating, hypocritical and incidious picking over the entrails of a man who may have been an arse in this case but who has contributed a lot to Scottish Society.  For those who say he has put his wife through this I would suggest that we all give Gail more credit than what that comment suggests.  Gail can speak up for herself and I do not recall her saying once that she was not standing by her husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy is a victim of his own ego but he was subject to the a disproportionate, targeted attach by News International, aided and abetted by Lothian and Borders Police and other statutory arms of the Government.  For this he is a matyr as we are now watching the gloating, hypocritical and incidious picking over the entrails of a man who may have been an arse in this case but who has contributed a lot to Scottish Society.  For those who say he has put his wife through this I would suggest that we all give Gail more credit than what that comment suggests.  Gail can speak up for herself and I do not recall her saying once that she was not standing by her husband.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Alastair, Edinburgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alastair, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy was wrong - doesn&#039;t make the News of the World right.  They are the worst of scum press, but Tommy shouldn&#039;t have asked his colleagues to lie in the attempt to have a go at them.  Challenging the establishment needs to be done from a position of strength.  He&#039;s set socialism in Scotland back a generation, and other people will pay the price for that.  Very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy was wrong &#8211; doesn&#8217;t make the News of the World right.  They are the worst of scum press, but Tommy shouldn&#8217;t have asked his colleagues to lie in the attempt to have a go at them.  Challenging the establishment needs to be done from a position of strength.  He&#8217;s set socialism in Scotland back a generation, and other people will pay the price for that.  Very sad.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Englightenment, please</title>
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		<dc:creator>Englightenment, please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheridan was naive and wrong to take on the NotW through the courts.  This week&#039;s result was inevitable.  Not because there is some kind of conspiracy against him, but because to win he had to lie in court.  Also, libel laws were designed by the rich for the rich.  Sheridan fell on his own sword.

He seems to live in a simple world where everything is black and white.  His politics are thirty years out of date.  Socialism is not relevant today, as class consciousness and real alternatives to capitalism simply do not exist.  Challenging today&#039;s capitalist paradigm is more needed than ever, but the politics of Solidarity and the SSP do not have the answers to understand contemporary society and prove a rational and persuasive alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheridan was naive and wrong to take on the NotW through the courts.  This week&#8217;s result was inevitable.  Not because there is some kind of conspiracy against him, but because to win he had to lie in court.  Also, libel laws were designed by the rich for the rich.  Sheridan fell on his own sword.</p>
<p>He seems to live in a simple world where everything is black and white.  His politics are thirty years out of date.  Socialism is not relevant today, as class consciousness and real alternatives to capitalism simply do not exist.  Challenging today&#8217;s capitalist paradigm is more needed than ever, but the politics of Solidarity and the SSP do not have the answers to understand contemporary society and prove a rational and persuasive alternative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Weegie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weegie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he brought it on himself, he knew the risks of taking on the Notw when there was sufficient
evidence to back-up their stories and - not that I have any respect for the paper itself.  He also
likes to present himself as a devoted family man, yet he puts his wife and child through this.  He should
have said hands up and it&#039;s an issue for me and my wife, and then shut up.  He illustrates the problem of the
left in its inability to address issues of sexism and realise that, within many socialist perspectives, feminism is
dismissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he brought it on himself, he knew the risks of taking on the Notw when there was sufficient<br />
evidence to back-up their stories and &#8211; not that I have any respect for the paper itself.  He also<br />
likes to present himself as a devoted family man, yet he puts his wife and child through this.  He should<br />
have said hands up and it&#8217;s an issue for me and my wife, and then shut up.  He illustrates the problem of the<br />
left in its inability to address issues of sexism and realise that, within many socialist perspectives, feminism is<br />
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll comments 28 Jan 2011 by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tommy is a victim of his own ego.  He decided to take on NoW as they didn&#039;t have any photographic evidence.  Sadly, that ended up being the biggest mistake of his life as not only did it bring him down but it also brought down the entire socialist movement.  No-one is above the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tommy is a victim of his own ego.  He decided to take on NoW as they didn&#8217;t have any photographic evidence.  Sadly, that ended up being the biggest mistake of his life as not only did it bring him down but it also brought down the entire socialist movement.  No-one is above the law.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 21 Jan 2011 Comments by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was different when I was young and that was only 40 years ago. Our parents knew where we were, what we were doing and took an active interest in our welfare. These days every other child seems to grow up in a broken home with two parents now seen as a novelty. So we can&#039;t really blame the children for their errant ways; it&#039;s all of our own making as our morals have fell into the pit. The sooner we bring back national service the better. That&#039;ll inject some responsibility into the next generation of parents - and their children!
Walther Bagshaw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was different when I was young and that was only 40 years ago. Our parents knew where we were, what we were doing and took an active interest in our welfare. These days every other child seems to grow up in a broken home with two parents now seen as a novelty. So we can&#8217;t really blame the children for their errant ways; it&#8217;s all of our own making as our morals have fell into the pit. The sooner we bring back national service the better. That&#8217;ll inject some responsibility into the next generation of parents &#8211; and their children!<br />
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 21 Jan 2011 Comments by Jeremy D'Arcy</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-21-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy D'Arcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No jobs, no places at college, no bursaries, no access to Uni, no chance to improve or better themselves - (it&#039;s no wonder that young folk are a bit all over the place... (not that any of that&#039;s an excuse for murder, though I must add!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No jobs, no places at college, no bursaries, no access to Uni, no chance to improve or better themselves &#8211; (it&#8217;s no wonder that young folk are a bit all over the place&#8230; (not that any of that&#8217;s an excuse for murder, though I must add!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 21 Jan 2011 Comments by Indigenous Poly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigenous Poly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you turn feral? Go off into the wild and fend for yourself free of any other human contact, I suppose.

So that&#039;s what these guys convicted for murder did, yeah?

I keep forgetting I&#039;m reading an SCVO bulletin, and think I&#039;m reading the Daily Mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you turn feral? Go off into the wild and fend for yourself free of any other human contact, I suppose.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s what these guys convicted for murder did, yeah?</p>
<p>I keep forgetting I&#8217;m reading an SCVO bulletin, and think I&#8217;m reading the Daily Mail.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 21 Jan 2011 Comments by Alex Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-21-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of an early intervention by holding them to account in the judicial system has been the catalist for this type of behaviour.
Jenny Green is correct by saying that the boys are victims but poverty etc is not the cause - teh mass majority of or people in poverty are law abibing.
There is a need to drastically review the law  and ensure it has a maximum inpact (by sentence not Childrens Panels) on the young people which teaches them respect and responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of an early intervention by holding them to account in the judicial system has been the catalist for this type of behaviour.<br />
Jenny Green is correct by saying that the boys are victims but poverty etc is not the cause &#8211; teh mass majority of or people in poverty are law abibing.<br />
There is a need to drastically review the law  and ensure it has a maximum inpact (by sentence not Childrens Panels) on the young people which teaches them respect and responsibility.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 21 Jan 2011 Comments by Chelsea</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-21-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me that SCVO feels comfortable using the word &#039;feral&#039; to describe Scotland&#039;s children and young people.  By using this kind of terminology, SCVO demonstrates the lack of respect for, support of and trust in children and young people that many adults have in Scotland.  If they are thought of and talked about in such negative terms, then it should come as no surprise when incidents such as this occur.  Clearly these boys were failed by the adults in their lives and maybe if their human rights had not been violated these boys would not have committed such an act.  I agree with Jenny Green, this country needs to do more to priortise children and young people and respect their rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me that SCVO feels comfortable using the word &#8216;feral&#8217; to describe Scotland&#8217;s children and young people.  By using this kind of terminology, SCVO demonstrates the lack of respect for, support of and trust in children and young people that many adults have in Scotland.  If they are thought of and talked about in such negative terms, then it should come as no surprise when incidents such as this occur.  Clearly these boys were failed by the adults in their lives and maybe if their human rights had not been violated these boys would not have committed such an act.  I agree with Jenny Green, this country needs to do more to priortise children and young people and respect their rights.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 21 Jan 2011 Comments by Jenny Green</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-21-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These poor boys are victims as much as poor Mr Bola is. This country does not prioritise young people - one in five children are growing up in poverty and successive governments have done nothing about it. There is no such thing as inherently evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These poor boys are victims as much as poor Mr Bola is. This country does not prioritise young people &#8211; one in five children are growing up in poverty and successive governments have done nothing about it. There is no such thing as inherently evil.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Alexis</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have to treat people in prison the same as any one else. Whatever the crime, being locked up is the punishment. Why deny someone food? I think however that smoking should be discouraged and stopping a priority as is unhealthy and expensive. Its bad enought that money has to be used to house criminals without it being spent given them cigs! I think in general prisons are too soft and that there should be less &#039;softness&#039; and more deterrents. But thats a whole lot bigger than a bar of chocolate or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to treat people in prison the same as any one else. Whatever the crime, being locked up is the punishment. Why deny someone food? I think however that smoking should be discouraged and stopping a priority as is unhealthy and expensive. Its bad enought that money has to be used to house criminals without it being spent given them cigs! I think in general prisons are too soft and that there should be less &#8217;softness&#8217; and more deterrents. But thats a whole lot bigger than a bar of chocolate or two.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Romi</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Romi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imprisonment should be about depriving convicted criminals of their freedom, not preventing them from consuming foods that are available to everyone else outside jail (or &#039;psychiatric hospital&#039;). If the Carstairs staff ban him from buying chocolate, I&#039;m just going to have to send him a bar myself. Let Mr Lyons eat chocolate if he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imprisonment should be about depriving convicted criminals of their freedom, not preventing them from consuming foods that are available to everyone else outside jail (or &#8216;psychiatric hospital&#8217;). If the Carstairs staff ban him from buying chocolate, I&#8217;m just going to have to send him a bar myself. Let Mr Lyons eat chocolate if he wants.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Janet Mundy</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Mundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a difference between a ban on serving unhealthy food in a psychiatric hospital (for which there is a strong argument) and stopping someone buying their own junk food or having it brought to them.  I think the latter is a violation of human rights.  The nature of the person&#039;s crime is irrelevant.  We supposedly live in a fair and just society that treats all its citizens, whatever their crimes, with respect.  We can encourage people to eat healthily but to force them to do so is totally inappropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between a ban on serving unhealthy food in a psychiatric hospital (for which there is a strong argument) and stopping someone buying their own junk food or having it brought to them.  I think the latter is a violation of human rights.  The nature of the person&#8217;s crime is irrelevant.  We supposedly live in a fair and just society that treats all its citizens, whatever their crimes, with respect.  We can encourage people to eat healthily but to force them to do so is totally inappropriate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Katherine</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely not. Does this man honestly believe that being denied chocolate, crisps and fizzy drinks is a violation of his human rights?  Please!  What about the human rights of the innocent child(ren) he sexually abused?  As far as I&#039;m concerned, he doesn&#039;t deserve any semblance of a comfortable life, and that includes unrestricted access to junk food.  He gave up his entitlement to human rights when he committed his crime(s).  If it were up to me, he&#039;d be on a diet of gruel and tap water and he&#039;d be grateful for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely not. Does this man honestly believe that being denied chocolate, crisps and fizzy drinks is a violation of his human rights?  Please!  What about the human rights of the innocent child(ren) he sexually abused?  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, he doesn&#8217;t deserve any semblance of a comfortable life, and that includes unrestricted access to junk food.  He gave up his entitlement to human rights when he committed his crime(s).  If it were up to me, he&#8217;d be on a diet of gruel and tap water and he&#8217;d be grateful for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by John Sharkey</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sharkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being denied chocolate and crisps a violation of his human rights.  Give me a break.  Whilst in locking people up for years it makes sense to have leisure activities and access to some sort of media etc.. otherwise when they get out they&#039;ll be worse than when they went in, there is absolutely no justification in allowing them &#039;luxury&#039; items such as chocolate and crisps.  There are many law abiding families in the uk who live on the basics in terms of food and can&#039;t afford these items.
If I&#039;m honest I find it difficult to be objective when this issue involves a convicted paedophile.  Bread and water as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being denied chocolate and crisps a violation of his human rights.  Give me a break.  Whilst in locking people up for years it makes sense to have leisure activities and access to some sort of media etc.. otherwise when they get out they&#8217;ll be worse than when they went in, there is absolutely no justification in allowing them &#8216;luxury&#8217; items such as chocolate and crisps.  There are many law abiding families in the uk who live on the basics in terms of food and can&#8217;t afford these items.<br />
If I&#8217;m honest I find it difficult to be objective when this issue involves a convicted paedophile.  Bread and water as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Margaret</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of the comments posted I voted YES, because I think the human rights legislation is going mad - yes i will agree that doctors are there to help guide you the same as dieticians but come on at the end of the day where is individual choice, after all doctors can refuse to treat some conditions if a person is overweight so individuals know that that they may in the future not get treatment unless they loss weight.

We all have a choice of what we eat, the population as a whole is getting bigger with unhealthy eating.  You cannot compare the healthy eating of a school to a psychiatric hospital there is not really a like for like is there after all kids go home and start eating unhealthy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of the comments posted I voted YES, because I think the human rights legislation is going mad &#8211; yes i will agree that doctors are there to help guide you the same as dieticians but come on at the end of the day where is individual choice, after all doctors can refuse to treat some conditions if a person is overweight so individuals know that that they may in the future not get treatment unless they loss weight.</p>
<p>We all have a choice of what we eat, the population as a whole is getting bigger with unhealthy eating.  You cannot compare the healthy eating of a school to a psychiatric hospital there is not really a like for like is there after all kids go home and start eating unhealthy</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by David Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>David Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a tricky one but I think that if you are in the care of a doctor in hospital you should expect to be given guidance in healthy lifestyle and should not expect unrestricted access to things that would cause harm such as alcohol, tobacco, excess of calories or saturated fats and cholesterol. Similarly unhealthy foods should have restricted availability within schools and hospitals; where an examplary policy should be in place.

Note obviously we comment as individuals since we would need organisational approval to do otherwise hence I cannot say that I work for ASH Scotland ;¬)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a tricky one but I think that if you are in the care of a doctor in hospital you should expect to be given guidance in healthy lifestyle and should not expect unrestricted access to things that would cause harm such as alcohol, tobacco, excess of calories or saturated fats and cholesterol. Similarly unhealthy foods should have restricted availability within schools and hospitals; where an examplary policy should be in place.</p>
<p>Note obviously we comment as individuals since we would need organisational approval to do otherwise hence I cannot say that I work for ASH Scotland ;¬)</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Barbara</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that to deny a convited criminal chocolate is hardly a violation when compared to real violations of human rights that go on in the world every day and this type of claim demeans those violations and can lessen the impact with the general public</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that to deny a convited criminal chocolate is hardly a violation when compared to real violations of human rights that go on in the world every day and this type of claim demeans those violations and can lessen the impact with the general public</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by John</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the authorities have a right to stop a prisoner from self harming though I do appreciate this is a difficult arae - for example is there a restriction on number fags a prisoner can smoke.........Oh where is the  sword of damocles when you need it....... 
&#039;&#039;Judge no one happy until his life is over&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the authorities have a right to stop a prisoner from self harming though I do appreciate this is a difficult arae &#8211; for example is there a restriction on number fags a prisoner can smoke&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Oh where is the  sword of damocles when you need it&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
&#8221;Judge no one happy until his life is over&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Anglophile</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Anglophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How else is the human race going to be subject to natural selection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How else is the human race going to be subject to natural selection?</p>
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		<title>Comment on TFN Talkback Poll 14 Jan 2011 Comments by Jackie, Edinburgh</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/tfn-talkback-poll-14-jan-2011-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie, Edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it is. Faced with a life-time locked up in Carstairs, you should at least have the right to comfort eat yourself into an early grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it is. Faced with a life-time locked up in Carstairs, you should at least have the right to comfort eat yourself into an early grave.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Talkback Poll 10 December 2010 Comments by Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/talkback-poll-10-december-2010-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas certainly (in my experience at least) brings family and friends together, but in terms of the wider community, I think it tends to be other events and campaigns that bring people together.  E.g Support campaigns for communities hit by natural disasters, accidents, war or terror attacks, or large charity events like Live Aid/8, Comic Relief, Children in Need, Marathons etc, or things at a local community like local festivals, traditions, or just the community coming together for a common cause of mutual interest or concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas certainly (in my experience at least) brings family and friends together, but in terms of the wider community, I think it tends to be other events and campaigns that bring people together.  E.g Support campaigns for communities hit by natural disasters, accidents, war or terror attacks, or large charity events like Live Aid/8, Comic Relief, Children in Need, Marathons etc, or things at a local community like local festivals, traditions, or just the community coming together for a common cause of mutual interest or concern.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Talkback Poll 10 December 2010 Comments by John Sharkey</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/talkback-poll-10-december-2010-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sharkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Christmas can bring out community spirit in some, but most of those who reach out to vulnerable groups at this time of the year are those that do it all year round.  Resourses to allow these volunteers to carry out their good work might increase temporarily however as a sense of obligation (guilt) prompts some to donate a bit more at this time of year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Christmas can bring out community spirit in some, but most of those who reach out to vulnerable groups at this time of the year are those that do it all year round.  Resourses to allow these volunteers to carry out their good work might increase temporarily however as a sense of obligation (guilt) prompts some to donate a bit more at this time of year.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Talkback Poll 10 December 2010 Comments by Alexis Hood</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/talkback-poll-10-december-2010-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes until the do gooders come out with the rubbish about it offending other religious groups. Firstlly this is a Christian country when in other countries we follow their rules and customs so why do we have to change our rules and customs to suit visitors from other religions. I whole heartedly support their right to follow their religious beliefs and customs while they are in Britain whether as a short visitor or if they have come here to live. Its time this country stopped making the majority fall in line with the minorities it only causes resentment to the other religions and races which they in most cases have done nothing to incite. Live and let live should also be for the locals. Its Christmas not winter festival or holidays or celebrations!!!! It makes my blood boil.. By the way I am not a bible thumper or a church hogger but feel racial and religious harmony could be achieved if WE WERE ALL allowed to worship in whatever way we see fit. After all why would a Muslim person be bothered by a Christmas decoration or carol......... come on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes until the do gooders come out with the rubbish about it offending other religious groups. Firstlly this is a Christian country when in other countries we follow their rules and customs so why do we have to change our rules and customs to suit visitors from other religions. I whole heartedly support their right to follow their religious beliefs and customs while they are in Britain whether as a short visitor or if they have come here to live. Its time this country stopped making the majority fall in line with the minorities it only causes resentment to the other religions and races which they in most cases have done nothing to incite. Live and let live should also be for the locals. Its Christmas not winter festival or holidays or celebrations!!!! It makes my blood boil.. By the way I am not a bible thumper or a church hogger but feel racial and religious harmony could be achieved if WE WERE ALL allowed to worship in whatever way we see fit. After all why would a Muslim person be bothered by a Christmas decoration or carol&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; come on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Talkback Poll 10 December 2010 Comments by FK1</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/talkback-poll-10-december-2010-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>FK1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe not Christmas but certainly this winter weather does.  Since the snow began I&#039;ve met more of my neighbours through clearing snow from the roads and paths.  There&#039;s also been a great deal of care taken to ensure the older residents have plenty supplies.  For all the awful travel disruption there has been a lovely silver lining to this cold snap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not Christmas but certainly this winter weather does.  Since the snow began I&#8217;ve met more of my neighbours through clearing snow from the roads and paths.  There&#8217;s also been a great deal of care taken to ensure the older residents have plenty supplies.  For all the awful travel disruption there has been a lovely silver lining to this cold snap.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Talkback Poll 10 December 2010 Comments by Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.scvo.org.uk/tfn/talkback-poll/talkback-poll-10-december-2010-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas is AWESOME</description>
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